Curse

Kento Jade · Oct 16, 2006, 10:05 PM // 22:05

15 DM seems like a lot to me. I was wondering if it was worth it. I cant remember the name of the daggers but it has 9 requirement and it has the stats. Although one would probably do a hell of a lot more damage with 15 DM

pingu666 · Oct 16, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19

yeah, i think the shiro weapons are ones tobe avoided, unless u like the looks...

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Damage

ive got a set of max damage zealous req8, 15^50 with +al id much rather use..

ive also noticed you do more damage (significantly) when your level is above that required..

Tainek · Oct 17, 2006, 12:07 AM // 00:07

all melee classes should be running 16 in the weapon attribute, period

Kento Jade · Oct 17, 2006, 12:12 AM // 00:12

I love the way Shiro Blades look though. Plus I got them for relatively cheap so I dont know. I think Im going to try Shiro Blades out.

Angel Develin · Oct 17, 2006, 12:17 AM // 00:17

assasin=hit to kill
hit to kill=high dmg
high dmg=15/16 in to the weapon atribute points
shiro's blades/vampiric=you do a lot of dmg

Remember that assasin is a dmg dealer ond must hit and run so don't be a hero
and do not tank or agro or stay on one place for to long and try not to destroy the name of assasins (or what ever is left of it) by that.

Hyunsai · Oct 17, 2006, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Hum... Assassin do high damage because of the weapon or because of the ignoring armor skills??? I read here that flurry was good for assassin because of that...

Kento Jade · Oct 17, 2006, 02:10 AM // 02:10

So what build would work well with these daggers? I was thinking of using only Sin skills, DM, Crit Strikes and Deadly Arts

pingu666 · Oct 17, 2006, 03:49 AM // 03:49

well, if uve got them, try them out

i prefer low req weapons personaly, just more flexible...

Kento Jade · Oct 17, 2006, 07:30 AM // 07:30

Ya Im definitely going to try them out

TheBaron82 · Oct 17, 2006, 07:38 AM // 07:38

Sins usually carry around 12-14 dagger which make shiro's weapon useless.

Yanman.be · Oct 17, 2006, 08:23 AM // 08:23

They're not worth it, because you can get 9 req greenies too.

Kais Unduli · Oct 17, 2006, 02:09 PM // 14:09

You can make your own set of vampiric daggers for cheaper than an amulet of the mists. I have a pair of hooked daggers, 3/1 vampiric, req8, +14%^50% health damage, +25 fort mod. Works just fine.

Phoebe · Oct 17, 2006, 04:49 PM // 16:49

Chkkr's Pincers
Although most of the time you'll want to use vampiric daggers you'll also end up using 15-16 Dagger mastery.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pingu666

ive also noticed you do more damage (significantly) when your level is above that required..

The damage bonus from having a higher weapon mastery is independent of the weapon's requirement.

- At 15 or 16 Dagger Mastery, req. 8 daggers will do the same damage as req. 15 daggers.

- Between 8 and 14 Dagger Mastery, req. 8 daggers will do alot more damage than req. 15 daggers (which will do minor damage due to not meeting the requirement).

- Req. 15 (or 8) daggers with 15 Dagger Mastery will do alot more damage than req. 8 daggers with 8 Dagger Mastery.

Yanman.be · Oct 17, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

Phoebe, your statements are correct, but I had to reread them, before I noticed you were correct. They're a bit...akward and confusing ^^

Desires · Oct 17, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52

You should be running atleast 15 DM regardless so I don't see a problem I just perfer zealous so I can run lower crit and invest in a third atribute.

Tingi · Oct 17, 2006, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desires

You should be running atleast 15 DM regardless so I don't see a problem I just perfer zealous so I can run lower crit and invest in a third atribute.

I think for most people that run an AoD'er in GvG they run 14 DM, 13Crit , 9 shadow arts.

makosi · Oct 17, 2006, 06:14 PM // 18:14

I think its a subtle message from the developers stating that high req. weapons are just as good as low req.

A while back there was scepticism that low req. weapons increased the liklihood of landing a critical hit which was disproved although people still yearn for low req. weapons. If you like the skin and you have 15/16 dagger mastery, then go for it.

Yanman.be · Oct 17, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45

People like low reqs, because you can do more with them. They don't do more damage.

Evilsod · Oct 17, 2006, 06:59 PM // 18:59

What exactly does it matter? If you have 15/16 Dagger Mastery and don't want to use any other daggers... then use Shiro's. If you have 15/16 Dagger Mastery and feel like using the Ceromonial Daggers or Darkroots Daggers because they're zealous... then use them. For all i care the latter 2 i mentioned could be req15, that wouldn't stop me running them if i met the req. Which i tend to do because Deadly Arts is a waste of attributes and skillslots and Shadow Arts is pretty damn crap too (ie. shadow refuge sucks).

Unless your gonna be soloing things like in GvG where you wouldn't wanna go without a self heal i don't see the point, its too poor for me to care, as far as i'm concerned its a method of satisfying 'requires an enchantment' on GPS if AoD is likely to be shattered.

Franco · Oct 17, 2006, 06:59 PM // 18:59

I think shiro blades look amazing that might be why some assassins like them a lot, its funny to see a small assassin female wielding 2 butcher knifes lol :P